podcast ep 40: phoenix rising yoga therapy with michael lee

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  • Michael had it all in Australia: teaching college, a family, but he decided to move to the US and stay at Kripalu for a time, so we discuss ashram life

  • The Phoenix Rising definition of yoga therapy, and how it’s evolved since Michael first started offering it, including the difference between a yoga therapist session and a private yoga class

  • Creating yoga therapy trainings that produce well-rounded and responsible practitioners

  • The International Association of Yoga Therapists and the Yoga Alliance’s decision not to use the term “yoga therapy” anymore

  • Balancing the benefits of repetition in practice, as well as responding to the moment’s needs


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Michael Lee, M.A. Dip.Soc.Sci., E-RYT 500

Michael has a long career in yoga and yoga therapy with a focus on psycho-emotional health now spanning 33 years. Prior to coming to the USA in 1984 to pursue yoga therapy Michael was an academic and consultant in the behavioral sciences. He founded Phoenix Rising Yoga Therapy in 1986 based on his learning and integration of yoga and elements of contemporary psychology, now supported by neuroscience.

Michael is the author of two books Phoenix Rising Yoga Therapy—Bridge from Body to Soul and Turn Stress Into Bliss. He is also a contributing author to the American Psychological Association published book Beyond Talk therapy: Using movement and expressive techniques in clinical practice. In June 2016, Michael was a keynote speaker at SYTAR for the International Association of Yoga Therapists and in 2018 the opening keynote speaker at Yoga Australia Conference, a presenter at the International Congress on Integrative Medicine and Health 2018, the Toronto Yoga Conference 2018, the Japan Yoga Therapy Conference 2018, and the first Global Consortium on Yoga Therapy in Sendai, Japan in July 2018. Michael and his wife Lori parent five adult children live in rural Massachusetts.

podcast ep 29: open the door at the body with susi hately on yoga therapy

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Susi Hately is a yoga therapist and teacher trainer in Calgary, Alberta, who is a pioneer in offering trainings online in yoga and yoga therapy through her program, Functional Synergy. We talk early online yoga work, the evolution and content of yoga therapy, and creating a meaningful, sustainable yoga career.

Susi tells me about her early work and how she was the teacher that people sought out to get out of pain. We also talk about…

- How she decided to get online and connect with people in a newsletter (before she even realized newsletters were a thing)

- Honing her voice and offerings through writing, forums and videos

- How to listen to the voice that encourages her to post something or hold it back, including developing confidence in what she had to offer

- Her definition of how core stability works, and the importance of responsiveness to a change of environment

- Training ourselves to be responsive in the world, including relaxing our rigidity

- Encouraging people to reduce the instinctive bracing that happens in students when they’re anticipating movement

- Teaching people the basic components of movement that then create yoga postures

- The whispers and yellow lights of body awareness so that they don’t have to hear the screams of body pain (my favourite analogy she offers!)

- How most yoga therapists are not offering body-based work and the diversity in the field

Susi Hately at Functional Synergy

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